These DOA Altums were sold as wild-caught, 3-4 cm sized fish, and the sales images showed juvenile fish in that nickle-to-quarter body size range. Generally, I measure fish length from head to tail. The first rebuttal was that "Altums are measured in height". Even so...3-4 cm? Ultimately, I was told the vendor was burned by his vendor; the expectation was that the end customer should also be burned?